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A couple of things I would like to see scientists research and publish reasonably public-friendly results for:

  • The psychoactive effects of different alcoholic drinks.
    I'd been told at a young age that different booze has different psychological effects; some drinks make you more prone to anger, some more to melancholy. There is - we're told repeatedly - a culture of violent, antisocial "binge drinking". This may well be down to the amount of booze being drunk; there's also the expectations of how to behave when drunk; however, has anyone bothered to check whether the content of what is being drunk is also affecting behaviour?
  • Foxes & Jackdaws.
    More species of animals are colonising urban environments. I'd never seen an urban jackdaw until a pair nested across the road from me about three years ago; now I notice their calls around town quite frequently.
    The question is (and I think I've argued this one with [livejournal.com profile] caerban before): Are the urban populations of these animals the result of a gradual invasion, or are a given city's fox (or raccoon, coyote, etc.) population likely to be from a common set of ancestors?

Date: 2005-11-23 12:38 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tanurai.livejournal.com
I notice that different drinks affect me in different ways. Maybe we could have an informal poll?

Date: 2005-11-23 12:42 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Fuckin' Stella.

Date: 2005-11-23 12:49 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tanurai.livejournal.com
er, yeah. There's a reason it's nicknamed 'wifebeater'.

Date: 2005-11-23 12:50 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com

But is Wifebeater Stella more associated with violent drunken yobs because it promotes agression, or because the people already prone to aggressive drunken behaviour happen to be Stella Artois drinkers?

Date: 2005-11-23 01:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tanurai.livejournal.com
Dunno. It makes me fat and bloaty and less able to run around chasing people to punch them (not that I'd do that in the first place). People drink stella because it's usually cheap, therefore allowing them to get obliteratingly drunk and thusly not able to make good decisions.

I would put forward the hypothesis that a cheap drink is consumed by people who just want to get hammered, thusly increasing any feelings of aggression and also appealing to the, er, 'financially less able'.

Date: 2005-11-23 02:50 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mrpyro.livejournal.com
Stella = cheap?

Unless things have changed, Stella is one of the more expensive lagers out there: back when I used to work in a pub we sold four different lagers, and Stella was the most expensive: in fact, I think it was the most expensive pint of anything we sold, more than all the ciders or stouts or ales.

Date: 2005-11-23 03:51 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] morecake.livejournal.com
'Reassuringly expensive', indeed. I like to drink it with Strongbow for a nice sherbety tasting[1] snakebite. However much I drink of it, though, I don't go about beating people up, nor do I want to.



[1]I'm the only person who thinks this mix tastes of sherbet.

Date: 2005-11-23 01:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Observations of otherwise reasonable housemates after a couple of pints, both now and at uni, suggest the former.

Date: 2005-11-23 01:27 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
To clarify, said housemates after a few pints of, say, Red Stripe, would have them crowded in the kitchen singing along to Coldplay being rendered on guitar. A few pints of Stella would have them kicking the doors in.

Date: 2005-11-23 01:29 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tanurai.livejournal.com
eeeeeeeeeeeeenteresting, Mr Bond. I'd suggest you don't run any tests though, in case you get your house wrecked.

Date: 2005-11-23 01:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] murasaki-star.livejournal.com
Alcohol> I wouldn't be surprised, especially given that there seem to be no non-chemical ingredients to things like WKD, Bacardi Breezer, etc

Date: 2005-11-23 03:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] caerban.livejournal.com
"What would you like, gentlemen? Miss?"
"Pint of wifebeater for me... Bob?"
"Just a half of self righteous political debate... oh and a melancholy reminiscence and tonic for Sarah."
Heh :)

We have indeed discussed urban animals (as opposed to urbane animals like weasels with pencil moustaches) and I recall the conclusion was "Meh, depends on the animal."

Date: 2005-11-23 03:49 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com

Fair enough. I don't quite remember any particular conclusion, probably due to the ongoing quaffage.

There's got to be a PhD in it for some zoologists somewhere.

Date: 2005-11-23 04:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kerida-eira.livejournal.com
Its possible that the research on the former has been done - though probably not in a non-scientific writing kind of way. If you can identify the individual chemicals i suggest you search the pub-med website (I would do this for you if i had any idea what is in these drinks - but i dont drink them so ive never bothered finding out).

Whisky vs. Vodka

Date: 2005-11-24 11:24 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] attitudetravel.livejournal.com
Whisky makes me angry and hate myself and everyone else.

Vodka [i]par contre[/i] slows my pulse and makes me feel unusually confident behind a calm exposure... allowing me to converse unusually intelligently and with an impressive amount of intensity on numerous topics.

All things considered, it's a good thing I went to Russia on my year abroad and not Scotland.

Re: Whisky vs. Vodka

Date: 2005-11-24 01:59 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com
Blimey, yer' back!

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